In ZODIAC, Graysmith put forth the theory that Allen was the Zodiac, and, therefore, the author of the Zodiac's many handwritten messages. This individual was identified and authorities concluded that he was not the Zodiac. Perhaps police should enlist an art critic to find similarities in the art styles and that of the suspect. During one interview, Graysmith admitted that no evidence would ever deter his belief that Allen was the Zodiac. Robert Graysmith: Avery was a former war correspondent and I think that the stress of that experience and the strain of the daily deadlines at the Chonicle made for a very addictive personality and more than a few reporters there sufferred similarly. Zodiac 4 Chloë Sevigny. # 28 - Washington, D.C.: What was Jake Gyllenhaal like? Investigators believed that this man was the same man seen by the boy, and his father, at the lake, indicating that they did not describe the man as bald. I photographed and made hundreds of hours of audio tapes of Fincher, screenwriter Jamie Vanderbilt and producer Brad Fischer as they attempted over nearly two years to get their film green lighted. And of course we handled them at the Chronicle. There was a suspicious character named Bob Vaughn in the movie "Zodiac". Bob Vaughn was never a suspect in the Zodiac case and no evidence has ever been presented to implicate him in the crimes or to indicate that he wrote the Zodiac letters. The facts demonstrate that Sherwood Morrill never endorsed Graysmith's opinions and theories about the Zodiac letters and writing and that he instead held opinions which directly contradicted Graysmith's. In December of 1980, Graysmith had said that his book would be published by Norton and available in 1981 (the last entries in Graysmith's book are dated around this time). In his book ZODIAC, Graysmith claimed the suspected Zodiac letter of 1978 was authentic, and he presented an elaborate, though seriously flawed, theory to support this claim. The earliest date for any police interest in Allen was October 1969, one month AFTER the attack at Lake Berryessa. The evidence proves that none of the other witnesses had ever identified Allen (and Graysmith has never provived any evidence to support his claims that the boy witness or one of the girl witnesses at Berryessa had ever identified Allen). A task force would have been formed and the superior forensics would have ended his career before it began. Allen's father Ethan died in 1971, shortly before Allen became a suspect. Allen's father Ethan died in 1971, shortly before Allen became a suspect. Graysmith has alluded to "records" kept by officials which named those at the lake that day although no such records were ever kept and did not exist. Robert Graysmith: God bless you. Graysmith then began mentioning the "letter" from Allen to a friend in which the suspect allegedly confesses that he was at the lake that day although Graysmith has never produced this letter and no other person has ever claimed to have seen the letter, either. Darlene's sisters Pam and Linda first mentioned the party which allegedly took place in Darlene's home in May 1969, the man in the suit, and the rest of this dubious tale when interviewed by police in 1977. According to Graysmith's version of events in ZODIAC, the family suspected that Allen was the Zodiac, they held a family meeting to discuss what to do, and the family reported Allen to the police. If Toschi had determined, in 1969, that the gloves belonged to a woman passenger, as Graysmith wrote, he would have no reason to believe that the gloves belonged to the killer when searching Allen's trailer in 1971. FACT CHECK: Graysmith has repeatedly mentioned the map of Lake Berryessa allegedly found during the research for the film ZODIAC but no one has ever confirmed its existence or discovery. Mageau himself admitted that he never got a good look at the shooter and had only seen the man briefly in a "profile view." Graysmith allegedly consulted Sherwood Morrill regarding Vaughn's writing but this occurred after Morrill had retired. I looked so closely to find out. Was Starr, out of hatred or even love of his father, dressing up in his father's clothes to do the killing?" None of us take this case lightly. Graysmith has alluded to "records" kept by officials which named those at the lake that day although no such records were ever kept and did not exist. The facts demonstrate that Sherwood Morrill never endorsed Graysmith's opinions and theories about the Zodiac letters and writing and that he instead held opinions which directly contradicted Graysmith's. According to Bawart's report for the Vallejo Police Department, Mageau was asked to assess the certainty of his identification of Allen on a scale of 1 to 10, and Mageau replied that his level of certainty was an 8. # 7 - Raleigh, N.C.: What do you think motivates a human being to become a serial killer? I though at first that Zodiac might be two men. "He looks at them 20, 30 seconds. It has been nearly 40 years. Ron and Allen were surprised to learn that Allen was a suspect, they explained that they had never suspected him, and neither believed that he could be the Zodiac. In his Post answer, Graysmith wrote, "Still even if the DNA rules out Allen, even though he knew the victims and was near or at the crime scenes, it still not rule him out." Size seven, same as we found in the cab. He said that the cipher killer would not have lasted ten minutes today. Size seven, same as we found in the cab. Later he discovered that they belonged to a woman passenger from earlier in the day." Bawart did just that with the Stine killing and Blue Rocks Springs over thirty years after the crimes. # 29 - Providence, R.I.: What about the physical disparity between the killer seen leaving the Stine cab and Leigh Allen? Robert Graysmith: I certainly hope so. Mageau was contacted by police several times after the shooting and, on several occasions, he was asked to view photographs of various suspects (he identified none as the shooter). Allen was smart and physically formidable. FACT CHECK: Graysmith is entitled to his opinions. It is unlikely, if not implausible, that the Zodiac used a projector on this occasion. Cast as a Mask: The titular killer is played by 3 different actors (John Lacy, Richmond Arquette, and Bob Stephenson), while the two suspects, Bob Vaughn and Arthur Lee Allen are played by Charles Fleischer and John Caroll Lynch, respectively. Toschi and Armstrong both stated, in public and in private interviews, that the fingerprint and handwriting evidence would identify the Zodiac long after both fingerprint and handwriting evidence had excluded Allen as a suspect. One method measures the size of the hand in inches while the other method creates an estimate based on height and hand size. Please help us make this place a great movie discussion site by upvoting great content and downvoting offensive, toxic, irrelevent posts. I received letters from health care workers who had crossed his path briefly and heard he was having a tough time. The facts demonstrate that Sherwood Morrill never endorsed Graysmith's opinions and theories about the Zodiac letters and writing and that he instead held opinions which directly contradicted Graysmith's. - Robert Graysmith, GRAYSMITH: UNMASKED * Robert Graysmith's CROOKED COMPASS * ROBERT GRAYSMITH: To Tell The Truth * GRAYSMITH: A Closer Look, MAIN PAGE * NEWS & UPDATES * DOCUMENT GALLERY * FREE FORUM * BLOG * CONTACT, THE DAY POLICE THOUGHT THEY NAILED THE ZODIAC. He had an honest fear of Zodaic which I saw in many of his letters in which he said, "Zode is going to get me." In his book ZODIAC, Graysmith claimed the suspected Zodiac letter of 1978 was authentic, and he presented an elaborate, though seriously flawed, theory to support this claim. Robert Graysmith: Yes. Despite Graysmith's repeated claims to the contrary, no credible evidence exists that Allen knew ANY of the Zodiac victims or that he was ever near or at any of the Zodiac crime scenes. FACT CHECK: Graysmith never mentioned this "Leigh" in his books and he had never identified this man. According to Graysmith, the initial tests had produced DNA which matched his suspect Arthur Leigh Allen; however, a second test did not match Allen. They also found guns of every caliber and live pipe bombs, Zodiac did tell us that he had bombs in his basement. Additionally, Allen’s fingerprints, handwriting, and DNA do not match that of the Zodiac. In 1976, Graysmith obtained a copyright for his own book about the Zodiac case. Graysmith claimed that the Zodiac letters had been mishandled, exposed to the Sacramento summers, and were not refrigerated. My job was to keep the case alive, to make it vivid and to make certain that someone reading the book might have the answer to the puzzle. The Zodiac killing costume consisted of old-fashioned Navy clothes, pants with pleats. FACT CHECK: The first reported use of DNA testing in the Zodiac case occurred in the late 1990s, as Graysmith himself reported in a story he wrote for the now-defunct website APBNews.com. Robert is convinced that this is Arthur Leigh Allen, and quickly rushes to Toschi's place in the middle of the night to tell him, and the former homicide detective finally relents for a meeting. Jack Mulanax; Ken Narlow; Bryan Hartnell; Zodiac 1 & 2; Captain Marty Lee; Bob Vaughn; Cecilia Shepard In 1983, columnist Herb Caen wrote an article stating that Graysmith's book, then titled THIS IS THE ZODIAC SPEAKING, would be published by St. Martin's Press and available in the fall of that year. FACT CHECK: The man seen by several witnesses at Lake Berryessa was described as having a full head of dark brown hair. Several people allegedly named on that list, including Dean Ferrin's brother, Arthur Leigh Allen's brother Ron, and others have denied that they ever attended such a party. Allen was more than six feet tall, weighed more than 200 pounds, and he had large, even massive hands. Bob Vaughn wrote the posters for the theatre so, therefore, there would have been ample writing samples for Allen to have copied from. Graysmith has mentioned the "typewritten guest list" of the party for many years but no one has ever produced this alleged document and no one in law enforcement has ever confirmed its existence. Conway and Lt. Jim Husted of Vallejo PD were right and that the Zodiac was Arthur Leigh Allen. He also pointed to the picture of another man in the photo lineup and stated that the face of that individual was similar to the face of the Zodiac. Official documents and media interviews, as well as the expert's family, demonstrate that Morrill's opinions never changed throughout his many years on the case. Bawart did just that with the Stine killing and Blue Rocks Springs over thirty years after the crimes. The day after going into the hardware store I stood in line at the post office and wrote the last page in pencil and put it in with my typed manuscript and sent it to my editor at St. Martin's Press, Richard Marek, James Baldwin's former editor. The visual and arcane aspects of the Zodiac appeal to a certain type of mind. I can't speak for the filmmakers who worked with the original officers and with the surviving victims and witnesses to make the best film possible. FACT CHECK: In this answer, Graysmith is working overtime to deceive readers. They most certainly have crossed wiring in dealing with love and violence. He passed on to his son a love of sailing. He picked out Allen as being there that day. He got it just right. That's the man who shot me." Mark Ruffallo simple became Toschi. FACT CHECK: The handwriting experts which Fincher consulted did not conclude that Allen wrote the Zodiac letters, so Graysmith's distortion is just another instance in which he twists the facts to make his suspect seem guilty. Here are the descriptions provided by the various witnesses. Robert Graysmith: I would love to have viable DNA evidence, but the chain of custody was broken. According to Graysmith, the Zodiac used handwriting samples obtained from several different people and an enlarger/projector in order to fabricate his handwriting style. How he knew I had been a boy scout in Tachikawa, Japan I don't know, but it's in the movie. In truth, FBI code experts and many others had concluded that Graysmith's solution was not valid, as documented in the FBI files pertaining to the Zodiac investigation. Check out Zodiac for the verbatim accounts. He ended up representing Mike in court in one of those ironic path crossings of the only two surviving victims. The story of the painting party, the mysterious stranger who allegedly stalked Darlene Ferrin, and the majority of the stories told by Pam and Linda have been debunked and refuted by Darlene's husband Dean and other members of their family. For years we searched for him, convinced that Mike knew who Zodiac was. In short, Mageau's description did not match Allen and his identification of Allen, despite these descrepencies, led many to question the accuracy of his identification. FACT CHECK: Graysmith claims that he waited until 1986 to publish his book out of concern for generating a copycat killer. If Toschi knew that the size seven gloves were too small to belong to the killer or Allen, Toschi would not have any reason to say that Allen had the same gloves size as the Zodiac. Was his life somewhat ruined by the murder of his girlfriend and his personal injury? I have published 7 true crime books, 3 have been movies. In his answer to the Post question, Graysmith claimed that Allen was "already a suspect in the other Zodiac crimes" at the time of the Berryessa attack. Sgt Lynch and put together a composite drawing. Fincher just needed a spooky scene near thr end for pacing. Graysmith has known these facts for many years, and he was aware that both Pam and Linda had a documented history of inventing tall tales when he cited both as reliable sources in his books ZODIAC and ZODIAC UNMASKED. I never told anyone. We are great problem solvers and go to the heart of the matter. I guess since handwriting cleared so many back then, they were not viable suspects by the time they got around to asking. While Graysmith did change "some dates" in his first book, more often that not he did so in order to make his suspect appear guilty. Any thoughts? Whoever Zodiac is he is a skillful artist. That book ends in 1983. Door to door, that is less than 50 yards. In 1976, Graysmith obtained a copyright for his own book about the Zodiac case. Robert Graysmith: In those days I weighed 145 (mainly from the stress of the search) was shorter and had much bigger feet. To learn more, read the article titled The Zodiac/Manson ConspiraZ. Fincher has 3100 pounds of photos, records and audio tapes, many of which I provided. FACT CHECK: Police reports and other official documents state that investigators examined the possibility that Charles Manson's notorious "Family" of killers was responsible for the Zodiac crimes but determined that no credible evidence existed to support this theory. Dave Toschi, Bill Armstrong, George Bawart and others all behaved in ways which contradict Graysmith's claims regarding their opinions on Allen. His description of a scene from the film based on his book features this puzzling passage regarding the police search of a trailer owned by suspect Arthur Leigh Allen. Paul Avery was healthy and gainfully employed in the late 1970s, and, he was still employed and in good health when interviewed for a television program in 1989. They were mixed and the result was tested to obtain the partial fingerprint. I am the luckiest guy in the world. In 1971, Avery did write a summary of the Zodiac case for Chief Robert Houghton which ended with the following pararagraph: "I feel privileged that you have asked me to assist in the coordinated investigation as a sort-of special investigator and consultant on media relations and I look forward to working you, Chief Houghton and the other investigators who may be assigned to the Zodiac Squad. Despite Graysmith's repeated claims to the contrary, no credible evidence exists that Allen knew ANY of the Zodiac victims or that he was ever near or at any of the Zodiac crime scenes. Bawart told me that if they had a cell phone they would have had Zodiac. 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